I can’t keep the Marvel line-up straight any longer. Deja vu ) and they realize all of a sudden that digital is the way forward. It wasn’t Samnee’s art, it was the fact that he wasn’t drawing Thor at all. He’s also done stirling work on the Megazine and other stuff I saw before leaving the shores of ol’ Blighty for good in 1993. (That’s why you see so much soda and beer advertising when you enter a deli or bar.). ), Not sure what became of that Target line, and what the level of success was. Email. Cmon. He’s been nominated for Two eisners and a Reuben as far as i can remember, there could be an Ignatz nom in there too. RELATED: When Thor Fought Thanos, Who Actually Won? Bestowed with incredible strength that rivals Thor’s, along with invulnerability, Wonder Man was originally a villain, a weapon to fire on the superhero team. I live in the world. At some point Marvel needs to look at it’s self in the mirror and say, “Dangit, we’re Marvel Comics. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. Then the unthinkable happens, Beta Ray Bill picks up the hammer. There were alot of books. As this sounds like the type of thing that would do great in trades in bookstores after the Thor movie came out. This is great! THOR — I never followed him much when I purchased comics. Thor: The Mighty Avenger is such a fail of comics sales that even Marvel e-i-c Joe Quesada has to pass the buck: “Sorry about the TMA cancellation, folks. Just look at the stuff that sells well and learn from it. Rates are available upon request. Thor was such a hero. I can’t buy Spider-Man anywhere. Even so, the symbiote, sensing the thunder god’s power, abandons the Hulk and tries to bond with Thor. RELATED: Thor VS Hulk: 15 Biggest Fights In Comics. Mr. It’s a battle for the ages as both heroes give it everything they got, with Thor launching storms and magic lightning and Superman going all out with his heat vision. Not me, sister! Thor functioned primarily as a protector-god, although stories concerning him also explained natural phenomena, thus linking him with the etiological type of myth (one which explains how some aspect of life came to be). But hopefully the fans have a better time now than I did then. As hard as this is to accept, there isn’t anything currently published that’s drawing them into the few shops that do have them available. Still, the Odinson refused to surrender, and while Hercules acknowledged his rival’s bravery, claimed victory. Reed Richards a.k.a. Here’s a novel idea: Stop trying to drown your audience with books they supposedly HAVE to buy, and start growing more books that people might actually WANT to buy again. 2 THE HULK One of the greatest rivalries in all of comics, the Incredible Hulk and the Mighty Thor have been at odds for years, forever determined to prove who is stronger. Make a deal with Scholastic and feature it in the book club. Thing is, when kids want something, they find a way to get it. A former herald of Galactus, the Silver Surfer has incredible superhuman strength, can travel through space at greater than light speed and can absorb and manipulate the universe’s ambient energy. Going from hero to villain and back again in a never-ending loop, it was in “What If…Norman Osborn Won The Siege of Asgard,” that readers got an entirely different ending to Siege. The flood of “important event” comics certainly had an impact on TMA’s sales, but I think the primary culprit was Marvel’s glut of Thor titles. Not in this universe, though. The two have clashed multiple times; sometimes in friendly sport, while other instances have been more serious. This is the type of material they have trained the audiences to look for. I heard that THOR was cancelled. Now it’s canceled again? Thor was killed two days before her 16th birthday. Thor, while an interesting character, simply can’t support anywhere near that many concurrent titles. Diminishing return mega-crossovers, followed by a spate of lame mini-crossovers, alongside an unholy glut of material; a ton of movie-related tie-ins that no reasonable person could wade through, leading to slightly higher-quality books that fans get invested in being canceled; books lost in the shuffle while the popular characters get diluted with 5000 spin-offs, etc. My point is that as publishers of periodicals, Marvel and DC have been having their asses handed to them by sales reps that have done the work to get their magazines on the stands. The book was not killed, it was drowned by all the other Thor one-shots, minis and tie-ins floosing the marketplace. Retail stores have little or no input on what magazines are on their racks. For the record, I don’t make those decisions. In "Silver Surfer" #4, they meet for the first time. Mark Engblom 11/17/2010 2:12 pm At 2:12 pm The flood of “important event” comics certainly had an impact on TMA’s sales, but I think the primary culprit was Marvel’s glut of Thor … The first arc of the reimagining shows how the team, made up of Thor, Captain America, Giant Man, the Wasp, Iron Man, and the Hulk come together as they face off against an alien invasion. Having defeated everyone from the Hulk to huge cosmic beings, it should come as no surprise that he’s also beaten Thor. What the hell is with that gif of a kitten being smacked? It wasn’t a good idea. @Brett – I’ve seen a spinner rack in the B&N in Union Square, and some of the larger Hudson News stands in the Port Authority and other travel centers do have a shelf or two of comics. It’s bases in part on sales, part on returns and in part on which magazine sales reps bust their humps to get the rack space. In my area, kids have easy access to comics and there’s tons of kids in my neighborhood. Oh well. Or maybe the reader just got confused when he entered the comic book store and saw a dozen Thor titles to choose from? Really does not make sense. Covering the hottest movie and TV topics that fans want. He was said to burst forth from his great hall in his chariot, drawn by two male goats – Tanngnjóstr (Tooth Gnasher) and Tanngrísnir (Snarl Tooth) – who could be killed and eaten by the god and then brought b… Langridge played the silliness of contemporary gods on earth with a straight face that I felt worked really well. From July 2009 to February 2010, the iTunes store sold two billion songs. The god of thunder immediately goes on the warpath, taking down Wolverine in an instant and then moving on to face Havok, the brother of Cyclops, and the Scarlet Witch. It’s the new Sisyphus. Insanely powerful and downright dangerous on account of his unhinged mental state, the Sentry is often said to wield the power of a million exploding suns. Frigga later gave birth to her and Odin's son Thor who would eventually become the God of Thunder. One of the most eye-opening revelations at the [email protected] digital conference was most all of the distributors — graphic.ly, iVerse, etc — find their books skew younger than print sales. They’ll probably see the decline in magazine sales, cut back on titles, and shelve the comics with the magazines. Really? The strongest of all the Asgardians, second only his father Odin, Thor, the God of Thunder has a power that is well-known throughout the cosmos. As Thor grabs his hammer to kill the serpent, the giant cuts the line leaving the serpent to sink beneath the waves and returns to its original position encircling the earth. It comes as no surprise then that she can take on Thor. I can understand cancelling a comic because the sales are low, but how about giving any comic with a big movie coming out the following year a bit of leeway? I HATE that gif. It’s all messed up right now because every publisher pretty much has to serialize the graphic novel before collecting it as a trade before they can get it out of the Direct Sales Market into B&N or Borders or Amazon. We have several sizes to fit every budget. No? They’re not aimed at the mainstream. That bring us to “The Avengers” #214. Another "What If?" The real Thor was a bit dead at the time, and when he returned and found out about Ragnarok's crimes, he was not at all happy. Since the sales are at the bottom of the charts, release the digital copy the same day as the paper copy. Not to the consumer, which is what Heidi and I were both talking about. I don’t like going to the comic store, so I try to keep a list of stuff I want to buy and get it all over with at once. He had one son, Magni, with his lover, the giant Járnsaxa, and another called Modi. “Thor Slaying Hrungnir” by Ludwig Pietsch (1865) Hrungnir (“The Brawler” ) was the mightiest of all of the giants, the spirits of darkness, winter, night, and the grave, who are often the enemies of the gods. What can I say? During the War of the Realms, Thor sacrificed his eye to obtain the knowledge to defeat Malekith the Accursed, and was made All-Father of Asgard - the tale being recorded in a saga.At some point, Thor inherited the Power of the All-Father from … Oh if only there was a way to get comics in grocery stores and Wal-Mart. I want them. Jason Aaron's newly relaunched Thor comic has embraced the fantastic in incredible ways in the hero's modern life, as well, recently crowning Thor the King of Hel. The Red Hulk maintained a keen intellect, allowing him to strategize and make optimal use of his combat training from his human counterpart. Nothing surprising here. Cell phones, tablets, computers, televisions… they all have the same cost. Many times, whenever Thor experiences a loss, it’s because someone was able to outwit him or on account of superficial circumstances or his opponent was a tiny bit stronger than him. @Shannon Smith: “Here’s the thing. From that day onward, and for years to come, Wonder Man would constantly brag about the time he beat Thor, ridiculously proud of the achievement. An ad in previews and an article on Newsarama or CBR just doesn’t cut it anymore. 3 Modi (Son Of Thor) Referred to as "Thor's Idiot Son" and "Dung Heap" by Sindri, Modi is a demigod and one of Thor's sons, as fans will know. If you live in Allegany county you have to travel over to the next county, Cattaraugus, in order to find a comic book, and then only in a DM shop (Grand Slam Cards and comics – I love the place but its dank, certainly no Rocketship). Towards the end of Avengers: Infinity War, it is only Thor who comes close to killing Thanos. Don’t point the finger at me, copper! “Those spinner racks have been replaced by the tablets and smart phones in your backpacks and pockets.”. Roger Langridge and Chris Samnee are all-star creators, in my book. But you have to get them where I can buy them. It's because that Thor isn't the original Thor. Heck, they’re even bringing back poly-bagging for that FF Death issue! Then, in 2010’s "Hulk: Let the Battle Begin,” the Hulk defeats Thor by taking hold of Thor’s hammer arm and beats the thunder god in the face repeatedly with his own hammer. In fact, Thor doesn't even really try to kill her himself. He sums it up up with one chilling formula: Huge Event x Huge Marketing Push = Huge Sales, Huge Marketing Push / 30 Mini-Events = So-So Sales & Lack Of Event Individuality. Whatever little pockets may still exist, the grocery store spinner rack has disappeared from the isles. Bummer. i may be going out on a limb, but i feel that folks who read the beat and its ilk arent really the ones killing it…who knows though. With this armor, Thor is more than a match for the Mad Titan, and by … I didn’t buy this series. Attacking him, Warlock all but flicks them away. Your best blog post this year, especially your answer to that rhetorical question those of us who fell in love with TTMA asked after hearing the news. Now, if that square footage can generate greater profits selling something else, the store will probably replace that spinner rack. At least until I ran out of books. Now… does anyone have the Publishers Statement of Ownership for this title? Design the system so it’s easy to use, and people will use it. People clearly pick and choose but they FOCUS on the core titles and the event books. Thanos also advised the God of Thunder to have gone for his head. Marvel’s problem? etc. They will not publish an original graphic novel. Introducing Adam Warlock. Thor may have failed to kill Thanos when it mattered most in Avengers: Infinity War, but in Thor #25 by Dan Jurgens, their showdown has a very different outcome. At Ragnarok , the doom of the gods, he was killed by the poisonous venom of the sea serpent Jormungand , after he had killed it. A book like that will never sell in the DM because it’s not in continuity. OKAY, OKAY it was me I’m sorry I’m sorry but I didn’t mean to I was aiming at X-MEN LEGACY and it just GOT IN THE WAY (sobbing helplessly). poor kitten. Who will be killed off in Avengers: Endgame? TTMA probably is, especially once the film is closer to release. What do you think was Thor's most brutal defeat? All-Father Thor's life closely parallels and is tied to that of the Thor of Earth-616, who he refers to as being his past self; to the extent that if the Earth-616 Thor were to die he would cease to exist. I bought THOR: THE MIGHTY AVENGER #4 because of the critical acclaim the series had received. Ragnarok was the self-chosen name of the clone of Thor, who made a very memorable debut in Civil War #3 by killing the hero Goliath. When Frigga was older, she met Odin, the king of Asgard, and the two fell in love and married where Frigga became queen of Asgard by marriage. All the latest gaming news, game reviews and trailers. Along the way, the Hulk is among the first to encounter it. How many ringtones are sold each year? I’ll buy them. Site Wrapper – spec available on request. They always want to monetize the comic book first. Allegedly, Marvel (and DC etc.) Though he defeated the serpent, Thor himself died immediately afterwards. Basically, despite what every says they want over and over and over — CLEAN ACCESSIBLE COMICS STORYTELLING DOESN’T SELL. I want them. THOR: THE MIGHTY AVENGER The heroes square off, with some of Ghost Rider’s attacks proving ineffective. • If they were affordable. Nobody believed in the show except Dish Network. This is basically the comics I grew up with. It was my favorite Marvel title–and one that should have had appeal to ALL, not just children. Unable to watch his son be killed, Odin intervenes and does the impossible by killing the Goddess of Death. So they payed to keep it going and it was only shown on Dish. As the battle ends, Angela appears and is quick to defeat Thor in hand-to-hand combat, knocking him out and leaving him chained up. A few years later its on NBC primetime and selling DVD’s and netflix streaming. Despite her attention to protocol, she was a loving and tender mother to both her sons. And now that MIGHTY AVENGERS is showing on the Disney channel, should Marvel start doing 10-second/30-second ads promoting their titles during the show? • If they could find them Odin, who was prepared to raze the entire Earth to avoid this version of Ragnarok, is devastated by his son's death. Hell, I cannot even tell you where to go to find a non-DM shop with comics within 20 blocks of my office here in Soho. Draw two pages on a landscaped 11×17 board and push the product out there as a 96-page book for $7.99. Nor should they be, if you have any interest in reaching a wide audience. It was a Thor-like character that didn’t look much like Thor. In this timeline, the alien fully bonds with Peter Parker and despite the Fantastic Four’s intervention, the creature escapes and bonds with Spider-Man permanently. Ghost Rider, otherwise known as the Spirit of Vengeance, is a being of frightening might. Rarely is a winner decided, as the two are usually evenly matched, but in “The Mighty Thor” #126, Hercules laid down the law. What’s funny about a little kitten being smacked? The problem with TTMA has nothing to do with any of the other Thor books out there. Surely something like this could have done well in the book market, especially among younger readers. It’s utterly expected. Now imagine a comics shop online that is just as easy to use as iTunes. It’s right there, if you look for it…. There’s plenty more kids looking for comics but this industry can’t find them. Granted, they don’t sell 20 different Batman comics but there are a few. Hopefully all of them. What kind of marketing was done to tell retailers that this is a book that should be “pushed” to new readers? Thor then defeats her with relative ease. I’d be at the comic store and go “Oh hey, one of the Thor comics is supposed to be good. ), XBox or whatever other gaming system they use. “while an interesting character, simply can’t support anywhere near that many concurrent titles”. Also, Roger Langridge has been a consistently good storyteller since his “Knnuckles the Maelvolent Nun” days. This is one more sad proof. It worked pretty well from 2001 through 2006, before short-term greed became, once again, the driving force of your business models. They have also gotten those magazines on the Scholastic Book Fair a few times. The problem with selling this book is sandwiching it between all those other Thor one-shots and mini-series. Perhaps the oversized format — though beautiful in production value — was not well received(?). But hey, we're getting ahead of ourselves. The son of Zeus and a demigod, The Lion of Olympus known as Hercules is a foe unlike any other. Let us know in the comments! In a highly controversial fight among fans, the Red Hulk easily defeats Thor, taking the thunder god’s best shots and laughing. Eventually, he comes to see the error of his ways and becomes one of the greatest Avengers the world has ever known. After Earth One was so damn successful why not try the same formula with the kids books, starting with this one. Remember the scene in the first Austin Powers movie where Austin is trying to turn his car around in a space that is too small? However, Thor has never shied away from a fight, whether his opponents be man, demon, or god. I live in Pennsylvania (suburbs of Philadelphia) and comics are NOT sold in local supermarkets or drug stores. Despite giving it his all and being aided buy other heroes, having Thor defeated so utterly speaks volumes to the power of the Phoenix, despite being divided in five different hosts. That means it has to survive the DSM first and to stand a chance, has to try and appeal to that market first. Heidi’s grasp of what it is spinner racks are meant to represent–that anyone with a few bucks can get a comic just about anywhere stuff is sold–was pretty shaky, hence my comment. Using his famous sonic voice, Black Bolt blasts the Venom-Thor, easily defeating him and forcing the symbiote to run and hide until it gets destroyed by the Black Cat. None of this was any fun before and I don’t know why anyone would think it’d be fun a second time. I can’t wait to buy the trade though, it looks like fun. Except spinner racks don’t have a $50-$500 entry fee or incomplete, hodge-podge release schedules and pricing, do they? I don’t think it’s surprising that middle-of-the-road work by relatively unknown creators on one-of-dozens of books featuring the same property didn’t sell well. Dang. The drug store magazine rack. Two of the mightiest superheroes on Earth, their fights often lead to the destruction of entire towns and cities. She cohosts Publishers Weekly’s graphic novel podcast More to Come. Hulk gloats that he’s proven his point, that Thor needs his hammer to win, and jumps away. Thor resists, but can’t hold out. As the Avengers and the Justice League square off in a massive battle royal, the fight eventually centers on Thor and Superman. Thor’s father is Odin, the half-giant and ruler of the Aesir gods, and his mother is Jord (known as Fjörgen in old Norse), the earth goddess who is entirely of giant ancestry. What’s interesting is, from my point of view, that this title got a lot of buzz online from several comic book reviewers, and let it didn’t encourage more people to buy it. There’s enormous pressure on the creative teams, editors, and marketing departments to make every new story seem like a reinvention of the wheel. Execs want to sell the comics straight to the mainstream, BUT they haven’t read them. Eventually Jane took on the role of Thor in her own series, The Mighty Thor, and joined the Avengers. So as far as I can see, comics ‘ARE’ where kids and new readers can get at them but it doesn’t appear as though they’re intrested in what’s currently on the stands. In earlier Scandinavian versions of the myth, Thor successfully captures and kills the serpent by striking it on the head. At this period in the Ultimate universe, the heroes still have trouble believing Thor is a god, which Loki exploits by using his magic to swell that doubt, leaving the thunder god with little choice but to battle his friends. Book publishers can publish half a dozen sexy vampire books a month, because they target them at a huge spectrum of age groups. Do they give it an extra marketing push and promote it twice as much? The failed attempt stayed with Thor for … Fandom Apps Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. The daughter of Odin and Freyja, Angela was raised in the Tenth Realm called Heven. People don’t have to be savvy… the websites have to be. While she clearly attempts to believe i… (errrrr…jk) I’ll look out for their future work for sure. ... Chris Hemsworth as Thor, Chris Evans as Captain America, Jeremy Renner as … Kind of expenseive. Loki slinks away and Thor is left to do battle with an army of Angels. Back in 2012, Marvel’s event “Avengers vs. X-Men” featured the Phoenix, one of the mightiest cosmic forces in the universe, heading to Earth. Frigga was a strong woman, a majestic queen, and perfectly able to stand at Odin's side. Originally in “Siege,” Thor’s power was the decisive factor in putting down the Sentry, but in "What if?" Thor was married to Sif, a golden-haired goddess with whom he fathered a daughter, Thrúd. You do more books like TTMA, but don’t sell them like orphans and don’t put them up against ten other titles featuring the same character. As the story goes, heroes fought, and on account of comic book shenanigans, Iron Man accidentally broke the Phoenix into five pieces. Would that be possible? Thor protests, telling Odin that killing Hela will have disastrous consequences for humanity. Poor marketing. Maybe not in your neighborhood they don’t but there’s 3 supermarkets in mine that do and one local drug store. Roger Langridge and Chris Samnee — the kind of creators beloved in the blogosphere and more than capable of creating the sort of readable, done-in-one, jump-right-in-here-folks comics that most people say we need. When the two first met, yet another misunderstanding occurs and they fight. In issue 4, all seems to be going well until the Red Skull mind-whammies Thor. Is anybody REALLY surprised that they now have to live in it, just because yet ANOTHER “fan-favorite” marginal seller got the axe? One of the greatest rivalries in all of comics, the Incredible Hulk and the Mighty Thor have been at odds for years, forever determined to prove who is stronger. My local comics shop (Forbidden Planet) shelves just about every Marvel and DC comic published. The comic began with Thor’s reappearance on Earth after a thousand-year absence, enabling the creators to chronicle the thunder god’s first meetings with friends and foes ranging from Jane Foster and Captain Britain to Hank Pym and Mr. Hyde. This can become… silly. Eventually, Black Bolt, the leader of the Inhumans, arrives on the scene. Well said, Heidi. Cuz when EVERYTHING’s important, nothing is (to crib from The Incredibles). Maybe they could even have their own merchandise stand. Boils down to the classic, “Fans vote with their dollars.”. Not only that, but something I’m hearing from more and more creators is the lack of promotional support their books get these days. The Scarlet Witch, with deadly and potent hex magic at her disposal, can become more powerful than nearly any other hero on the planet; at least when she’s either crazed or not in control of her powers. I don’t know if this book was 3.99 or not, but I may have had blinders on from the start. Beta Ray Bill recovers first, proving himself the victor. After beating Captain America, Tigra and Iron Man, Ghost Rider squares off against Thor. Schools, libraries, families and in particular KIDS want book format comics to take home and read, they do not gravitate towards monthly comics nor do they generally shop at direct market outlets. The problem lies clearly in the format and particularly in marketing, or lack of it. It’s at Wal-Mart. But a bookshelf has similar costs. Oh no! Long story short, Loki tricks the two heroes into doing battle. However, it’s rare that he comes across heroes who can physically swat him aside like a fly. If they had done exactly the same stories, but actually used the real characters– you know, the Thor designed by Jack Kirby– it would have sold. The new power takes over their minds as they go to extremes to champion their cause, including locking any heroes who oppose them in Limbo. And the snake continues to swallow its tail and the same arguments happen over and over again. The Hunter Angel shares many of the same attributes of her brother, including incredible strength, speed, durability and a remarkable proficiency with weapons.